New PC, take 2
A few months ago I were bein' ready fer a new pc an' posted here. For reasons I won’t go into here that got delayed (cough… iPad, $900… Ouch)
On th' plus side in that time th' gtx 600 series, an' ivy bridge CPUs have come out as well as stupidly o'er priced hard drives have dropped somewhat.
I’ve spent th' weekend doin' some whirlpool reaserch an' come up with th' followin'. Let us know yer thoughts.
Specs after th' break…
| Motherboard | Asus P8Z77-V | $209 |
| CPU | Intel I7 3770K | $375.00 |
| CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D14 | $86.00 |
| Case | Antec P183v3 | $154.00 |
| Power Supply | Silverstone ST75F-P 750w modular | $128.50 |
| Graphics Card | eVGA GTX 680 SC | $689.00 |
| DVD | Pioneer DVR-219LBK | $25.00 |
| Hard Disk 1 | Intel 520 – 120GB SSD | $191 |
| Hard Disk 2 | Seagate ST2000DM001 2TB Barracuda, 7200RPM | $135.00 |
| Hard Disk 3 | Seagate ST2000DM001 2TB Barracuda, 7200RPM | $135.00 |
| RAM | Corsair 16GB 1600mhz DDR3 | $130.00 |
| Sound Card | Sound Blaster x-fi xtreme | $75 |
| Speakers | Creative GWT40-SII | $122 |
Total $2454
+ few extra hundred added fer build (can’t be bothered spendin' th' time buildin' it), Windows, an' on site warranty (got about $1500 worth o' replacements under warranty with me last build, well worth it)
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Questions...
Will th' 750 supply cut it?
A sound blaster card?
I’m not sold on ssdd! Aarrr! And don’t think 120 g fer a main sail is enough! My 120 is pushin' capacity an' I’m a “not on th' cdrive” nazi!
And fuck me graphics cards be soooo expensive compared t' everythin' else!
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Power supply… Aye apparently 500 t' 600ish will cut it fer single gpu even if its top end like th' gtx 680. I don’t trust that though, so went th' 750 gettin' lots o' recommendations on wp.
Sb card… Aye wasn’t happy with th' on board sound on me last asus board an' I’m gettin' a lower end asus this time which has only a mid range on board sound. Always regretted not gettin' one so tout I’d try with this pc. Was tossin' up betwixt xifi an' asus xonar models about th' same price.
Ssd… I’d love th' 256 gb but just can’t justify th' cost, we'll keel-haul ye, Ya swabbie! I’ve been runnin' on a 150 raptor fer years so I think I’ll be able t' squeeze into th' 120…. Hopefully.
Graphics…. Fire the cannons! Sure is. I pay th' cost here fer gettin' a new graphics card in high deman'. Chances be I’ll have t' wait a few weeks fer this. Most places be chargin' 730 fer it cos o' th' shortage already. Havi g said that it’s o'er 300 cheaper than th' 8800gtx ultra I got in me last pc…. That were bein' nuts.
Hmm My 2 Cent's Worth
The ssd have a look at this range ssd
The PSW ye will need o'er 750+ Wats, that 680gtx is goin' t' suck a sh&t load o' power a full tilt PSU
The Case thar be two, th' key here is air flow air flow air flow
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Robag
Speakers
Great ch0ices thar Fuzz interestin' th' speakers have n0 subw00fer but readin' th' reviews it has very l0w bass resp0nse an' yer Ive still g0t me creative 2.1 setup fr0m 10 years ag0
n0mad
Thanks
Thanks fer th' tips guys.
Holy shit Robag, did ye just recommend me a $785 SSD, that thin' looks fantastic….
Initially I were bein' lookin' at either a Corsair or OCZ series SSD with th' sandforce controller as they seemed t' be th' rage about 6 months ago when I started lookin', on a dead man's chest! All that seems t' be recommended these days o'er at whirlpool be either th' Crucial M4 (mostly th' 256GB, but i think th' 128GB is ok too – that’s th' one I’d be lookin' at). Or th' Intel series, 330 or 520. They seem t' be gettin' recommended based on reliability mostly I think.
Case wise… I ummed an' erred about this fer a while. WP reccomended Fractal Design R3 fer every build. I compared pretty closely, even found a thread comparin' th' Antec P183 an' P193 against th' Fractal. For silence an' build quality th' two Antecs seemed t' come up on top.
I did initially look at th' P280… I just dont know about that one. There were bein' somethin' about th' bounty that didn’t do it fer me, on a dead man's chest, All Hands Hoay! It were bein' similar, but they changed th' hard sail bay thin' t' not be in separate compartments, shiver me timbers With ye recommendin' it though I’ll definitely give it another look as I did disregard it fairly quickly. The other one I likely won’t go with just because o' th' side window. The pc goes in a bedroom that gets slept in (when I’m in trouble with th' lady…) an' th' PC stays on overnight sometimes. So its nice t' not have bright lights flashin' thru a glass side window.
Also th' reason I keep comin' back t' th' P183v3 is it’s basically th' same case I have now an' I’m pretty happy with what I have now, yo ho, ho
The build has th' ability t' overclock (not as good as sandy bridge cpus, but it still does ok) but I’m not really lookin' t' overclock intiially. Just want a fast, silent build (thus th' top end quiet cpu cool, an' top end cpu).
Speakers… aye again I’m not dead set on them. But they came up with good reviews, an' I like th' notion o' decent sound comin' out o' somethin' without th' need t' add a sub woofer into th' room.
Lol, I were bein' still runnin' me cheap altec lansin' from nearly 10 years ago too. Right now I’m usin' a 2.0 crappy logitech from about 9 years ago. About time fer an upgrade here I think fer sure.
case
lovin' that second case, Robag… bookmark, bookmark BOOKMARK!!
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I still think hands down this is still th' best case fer style, coolin' an' price. http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6606. Ask kippa, he got one too an' I have built 3 other systems fer scallywags with that case. Great cable management too.
Also fer cpu coolin', try one o' these. They work great an' maintenance free, yo ho, ho http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606903&CategoryID=444
Antec P183
ok, now i checked what it looks like, an' i’ve confirmed it… its th' same as mine….
I wouldnt recommend it!
well actually i would, but i suggest ye also get 2-4 additional 175mm fans!
liquid cooling....
who is usin' it?
apparently liquid coolin' actually makes MORE noise fer only a negligible difference in temp vs air coolin'!
thoughts?
Well...
I have started settin' up systems with th' Corsair Hydro Series. Works perfect with little t' no extra noise, feed the fishes Nay need t' top it up, all sealed an' maintenance free. Also that case I posted, doesnt need any thin' extra but ye can add t' it if ye like. I have fully blinged th' case out with lights an' LED fans.
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Aye I’m kinda avoidin' th' blin'. And hoist the mainsail, Hornswaggle Just lookin' fer silent, black. I’ve got th' p182 I think. Or 180, ye scurvey dog. They’re all very similar that’s wh I’m defaultin' t' it, unless I can find somethin' that suits.
I were bein' considerin' replacin' th' two stock antec fans with 2 120 mm noctua fans, an' addin' one more up th' front. 30 a piece though. But I think I’ve convinced me, me auld antec stock fans rattled after a bit… But that were bein' likely cos I no nay ne'er cleaned out th' air filters.
Question… Do u guys open ur cases up an' clean them out often….. Ever… Filters etc?
Just out o' interest shad, how come u suggest fer gettin' th' case an' against it. Runs hot fer u?
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Liquid coolin'… Very interestin', I’d need t' read some reviews
Always meant to share this...
Here is th' pics o' me current setup, with a chest full of booty. Figure now is a better time then e'er t' show ye, and a bucket o' chum. Here is that case I were bein' talkin' about. Though I still dont have th' Corsair Hydro Series cooler yet.
http://imageshack.us/g/37/img1681y.jpg/
case
I’m with delta on th' case , it comes with 3 fans inbuilt 1 120mm an' 2 200mm i bought an extra because i didn’t know that it came with fans an' th' case is colder then me fridge, with a chest full of booty. it also has a lot o' space.
My heat/p183
Ok, quick an' dirty cause we can likely have a convo elsewhere!
The case is great! Aarrr! looks even better. However it’s only got 2 extraction fans. But scope t' have 4 more intake fans!
The CPU, from what I’ve cared t' pay attention t' runs fine heat wise, notin' that I only have th' standard CPU cooler, an' ye now/be orderin' a chunky sink/fan attachment ( although I do have an extreme mobo with a big built in sink… Anyway off track!
Problem is, me graphic card, I'll warrant ye. Evga Gtx285 o'er clocked/extreme/classified dealie! And it works epicly an' it, in me opinion holds a pretty big candle t' th' 4/500 series in terms o' performance (I run all me games – cause I have th' mindset “I paid lots o' dubloons t' be able t' see/someone spent th' time programmin' it – so I want t' see/play with th' wavy grass on, Ya swabbie! This does cost me me kdr as I’m hidin' behind stuff which everyone else can’t see an' in fact I’m standin' in th' open!) anyway
The fckin fan in that thin' is like a space shuttle in blast off! Nay th' fans fault really but th' temp gauge on th' graphics card regular, durin' games gets t' 90-95 degrees! Aarrr! If I’ve got me gas heatin'/or th' room gets hot (it does in summer) an' th' room temp is high, me PC does shut down th' game without warnin' because it hits 101degrees, pass the grog!
Akin' th' side o' th' case off actually makes this worse AND th' dust is horrible, Ya swabbie! ap yer better off keepin' it on, Avast me hearties! And th' noise is increased! ( see more on noise below)
So can I get. Water cooled gpu!
Good thin's about th' case be th' heat management on th' other stuff through segregation o' th' psu is good, an' th' fans aren’t too noisy, when on low or medium (yog can control th' 2 extactors externally) but I’m runnin' mine on high… With th' rocket ship it’s fucken noisy, we'll keel-haul ye! Enough so I can’t hear much goin' on outside th' room even woh me headphones off!
The filters on th' case (intakes) need vacuumin' every week, they be removable an' that’s all good! And it shows me they work an' air IS gettin' into th' case! However I’d love t' add 2 more fans! Which would hopefully reduce th' extractor fan speed, lowerin' th' o'er all noise but also lower th' gpu temp/fan noise by proxy!
So is it th' cases problem? Nay it’s th' gpu! But am I lookin t' th' case t' help reduce th' problem? Aye, we'll keel-haul ye! And reduce noise? Hell yes!
Thanks...
Perfect reply. THat’s highlighted a few thin's I should be lookin' at. Prepare to be boarded, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur! I’ve got a similar PC t' what ye have now except much older CPU. Fire the cannons! Yaaarrrrr! It’s P182 I think case, so very similar t' yours…., and a bottle of rum! just quietly… I dont think i’ve e'er bothered t' open it up t' vacuum th' inside lol. I vacauum th' top an' back fans from th' outside regularly an' they do get a lot in thar but I’ve no nay ne'er removed them. I wonder if thats in me model…
Either way, if I do stick with th' P183v3, I’ll definitely get 3 Noctua fans, and dinna spare the whip, Avast me hearties! 2 t' replace th' two antecs that come with it, an' 1 t' go into one o' th' optional front fan areas. And hoist the mainsail!
Also… I’m gonna have t' do a bit more readin' on whether with th' GTX 680 temperature an' fan noise be as much o' an issue, by Blackbeard's sword. I read up on it a month or so back an' I think in general it got worse in th' 400 series, then better in th' 500 series… Don’t remember what happened with th' 600 series.
I’m sure thar were bein' a water cooled version o' th' gpu.. but it depenended on a fully water cooled case which is more effort than I’m willin' t' put in right now. Will get back t' ye, thanks.
Kip, delta, ro, will do some readin' on those other cases ye’ve recceomended t' see if they fit th' bill better. Thanks all.
OK
After a bit o' review readin' it looks like
At load:
GTX 280SC (me existin' blown up card) – 86 (that’s fairly consistent with what I’ve found)
GTX 285 (Shad’s card) – 85 (although I’ll take this as an 86… their review said th' 280 were bein' 85)
GTX 580 – 76
GTX 680 – 78
GTX 680 SC (me potential card) – 80
So in general a bit lower… but I might consider th' non SC edition o' th' EVGA card, to be sure. Although… fer 2 degrees screw it.
And noise wise… th' 280 series said once it got t' 86, th' fan would be at full ball an' I know what that sounds like. Am sure we’re hearin' th' same thin' thar.
For th' 680 series
“As we can see, maintainin' temperatures at its higher clocks doesn’t involve this card increasin' its fan speeds. The SC+ actually maintains th' exact same acoustical profile as th' reference version which means it likely won’t be heard o'er th' other fans in yer case. “
Which is good.. means I may as well get th' 680 SC, noise wise. Doesn’t actually give me much reference fer how loud that actually is though.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53144-evga...
Need t' find a review o' th' 280 t' see how loud in db it were bein' t' compare.
Fuzz
damn
Hot damn I want th' Signature 2 series. Special coolin' an' two silent fans…., Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur! drools.
Pump noise!
I’d hazard a guess water coolin' pumps would still create noise!
I know from me fish tank, they ain’t quiet
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Am pretty happy with th' air cooler I got. Have t' change me ram t' either low profile corsair or 8gb gskill dimms t' fit th' cooler… Anyone hate gskill, avast?
Quick question about case fans… Not sure what th' deal is these days. I know u can control th' stock case fans with three switches on th' back o' th' antec cases. Is it possible t' do th' same if u repla e them with other fans? I’d hate t' have t' open th' cae each time t' switch th' cable just t' change th' speed ( th' noctua co e with three cables… Normal, low noise an' ultra low noise.)
I'll open up mine and take a photo
Ill open up mine an' take a photo, I’m pretty sure ye should be ok Aslong as yer fan has th' appropriate wires an' ye connect th' up properly!
case
get th' antec nine hundred two v3 gamin' case…..they be pimpin (blue leds so pretty) an' work well!
lol
an' I’ve no nay ne'er washed th' intake fans on th' case in o'er three years o' th' antec 900 cases, even up here in qld
OK...
I think this is what I’m goin' with:
Too lazy t' add it up.
Thanks fer th' advice guys.
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Oh an' 3 Noctua fans replacin' th' stock antec ones.
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$2,407.50
N0w try that 0ther st0re…..
n0mad
What's the discount for 2
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Lol
Surely u don’t want one yet
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