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I’ve no nay ne'er really bothered gettin' any real gamin' setup goin'. I actually generally play ET:QW slouched on me couch with a Thinkpad T61P balanced precariously on me lap. My cat likes how warm th' graphics card vent gets an' squeezes in on me lap as well, occassionally causin' me t' fire uncontrollably when she drops that comely wench weight on th' trackpad buttons so apologies fer when this happens :)

My mouse fer this until now has been a portable Logitech infra-red based thin': great little mouse fer just workin' an' keepin' in a laptop case, not so good fer gamin' I guess.

But I’m thinkin' that a proper mouse might be in order t' improve me game a little without puttin' in all that hard work an' practice scallywags keep goin' on about.

Anyone care t' chime in whether a good mouse will make much o' a difference? Yaaarrrrr! What models be good an' cheap? I don’t mind usin' a wired mouse, as it will be only plugged in fer gamin' anyway.

UPDATE:
I just went an' ordered this: http://www.cybersnipa.com/us/products/intelliscope-gaming-mouse.php
Turns out I could get it through work fer $35, which is less than half rrp I think, and dinna spare the whip, Ya swabbie! It’s pretty damn ugly with all those blin'-lights (IMHO), but gets good reviews fer smoothness an' accuracy, so I’ll give it a go.

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Fuzz's picture

I’d be interested in this

I’d be interested in this one too, pass the grog, yo ho, ho For years I’ve used a Logitech MX 700 which were bein' expensive an' top o' th' line at th' time, but definitely not a gamin' mouse. Nay options fer sensitivity plus its cordless which is usually bad fer gamin', ye scurvey dog. It would take a bit o' gettin' used t' go t' back t' a corded mouse fer me, but if I were bein' goin' t' buy a gamin' mouse I’d have t' go fer that.

Very interested t' hear some suggestions – especially on bran'.

Pinge's picture

Logitech...

A couple that I have used…
Logitech G9. Great fer gamin' but I think some o' th' buttons be too close t' each other an' when programmed fer different actions will be accidentally pressed. Easy t' program an' very accurate, and a bottle of rum, Ya swabbie! 8/10
Logitech G7 wireless. Dont think its available anymore but th' best mouse I have e'er had. Fetch me spyglass! Only problem were bein' rememberin' t' change th' battery before a match. Probably should mark it down bein' wireless but I loved it. 9/10
Logitech G5. Not bad but not enough buttons available fer programmin'. 7/10
Microsoft Habu. Yaaarrrrr! Not a bad mouse. Modelled on th' Razer an' actually thats th' software t' run it. Fire buttons were extremely sensitive. Bit difficult t' program th' buttons though. 7/10
Razer Diamondback. Super mouse with one problem…forward/back buttons were on opposite sides o' th' mouse. Virtually excluded th' use o' one button. Extremely comfy, accurate, programmin' were bein' a pain. Would still be usin' it if it were bein' not fer th' button issue. 8/10

Those be a few that I have used.

My son Ayum uses th' Habu an' I now use th' G9.
But these be likely at th' upper end o' th' gamin' mouse market.
I need every advantage though so thats why I tried all these.

My next mouse will likely be next gen Logitech. I think they make a great series an' be reasonably priced.

Cheers
Pinge

ltmon's picture

Cheers...

Thanks Pinge.

I might clarify that I likely won’t get into programmin' macros or havin' th' mouse run macros fer me (saw one that could be switched t' “double-tap”, “triple-tap” an' “quad-tap” fer shootin' — not me thin').

Wonderin' mainly about accuracy, speed t' gettin' t' target, smoothness etc. Is thar noticeable differences with “business level” mice an' “gamin' level” mice? What about DPI an' other measurements th' manufacturers apply — do they make a difference or be they just bullshit t' sell plastic?

Cheers,

L.

G5

I use a g5, i only got it maybe 3 months ago now. Granted i were bein' at kapooka fer a month o' that time but i love th' mouse, Hornswaggle like pingey said its got very few buttons, 2 extras which i used t' use fer stroyent up/down but dont even bother with any more. theres also th' option o' pushin' th' mousewheel t' either side as an extra 2 buttons, i havent bothered tho i were bein' thinkin' o' usin' it fer maybe ‘use’ or somethin'.

As far as smoothness goes, this is a helluva lot smoother than th' previ'us mice i’ve used in bf2, aoe2, etc which were dell an' mircosoft ones.. i picked up th' g5 fer about $40 too so it wasnt too bad pricewise.

I reckon th' main thin' t' look fer is how they fit yer han', i think big hands fit logitech better but smaller hands be more suited t' razrs

Pinge's picture

DPI makes a big difference

DPI makes a big difference in games.
Not fer normal work but gamin' it is much better t' have a bit more…:)
Will be smoother an' when ye zoom in t' distant targets ye will notice th' difference.
Its a personal thin' though an' I have mine set all th' time on 1000DPI.
The speed in gettin' on target is faster with more DPI.
But thats th' same as mouse sensitivity in game.
Its somethin' most scallywags get wrong in game though.
To set yer sensitivity do a 360 deg turn. If ye have t' move th' mouse 2-3 times then ye have it about right but any less than that an' its too sensitive an' ye spray shots everywhere.

I too dont use any scripts.
I have th' buttons configured t' weapons or tools.
So I push th' back button an' I get th' deploy tool, I hit th' wheel right button I go back t' AR/Lac.
Left wheel button pulls th' pistol/blaster an' so on.
Helps when I am busy runnin' that i dont have t' find more fingers fer number keys.

Can config them fer flares when in a vehicle too.

Logitech fit real nice in me han' except this G9, thats a bit odd in shape an' feel.

ltmon's picture

Kapooka eh?

Spent me 12 weeks thar about 10 years ago now. It were bein' 40 degrees or o'er every day fer 5 weeks runnin' is most o' what I remember, me Jolly Roger Spent th' next 5 years in RASigs. They only make ye stay in that shithole fer a month? I’m jealous.

$40 seems about th' right price. The G9’s be $90 (an' that’s through wholesale suppliers), so I’m not too keen. I’ll see if I can find one aroun' that mark.

ltmon's picture

Flares

Bind th' damn thin's t' spacebar, and a bottle of rum! It’s not as though it’s used in vehicles normally (except fer skiin' in th' icarus…), an' is soooo much faster t' reach than ‘1’.

Pinge's picture

I dont use vehicles and

I dont use vehicles an' rarely use flares so doesn’t matter what button fer me.
I’m too lazy fer flares.

Shouldnt tell ye that coz if ye e'er see me in a vehicle ye know I aint gonna send up flares…:)

I recently got a G5 too

I recently got a G5 too, it works well fer me. Sounds like me setup is similar t' Pinge’s, with th' buttons bound t' tool or weapon selections.

It’s interestin' that th' weakness he mentions with th' Razor Diamondback, i’d actually consider a strength, me Jolly Roger I used t' have a mouse that had forward an' back buttons on opposite sides o' th' mouse, until it broke… but it meant i had a button restin' neatly under me pinky finger.

Maybe some gamers dont like t' use their pinky finger, but if th' button were bein' in th' right place on th' mouse i’d find it fantastic! The way i see it, most mice out thar waste th' use o' a finger or two (dependin' on how ye hold it). I use all five fingers on me keyboard, why cant i use all five on me mouse too?

Sha8doW's picture

Cant offer much advise

Cant offer much advise apart from th' obvi'us..
wireless (think n0mad did th' calculations on wired/wireless an' he recommends wired IRC) – I use bluetooth, works good fer me.
get one which has LOTS o' buttons. id say two on th' right an' two on th' left additional t' th' two main ones an' th' scroller dealie.

part from that…, with a chest full of booty. dont buy black LOL

Pinge's picture

The button on the right for

The button on th' right fer me were bein' right on th' tip.
Bein' an auld wrinkly fella riddled with arthritis an' craggy fingers I just couldnt reach th' button…:)

n0mad's picture

The Best m0use in the w0rld

Ok after much testin' an' big h0les in me wallet I can say that wired 0r wireless makes n0t much difference at all
an' t0 give every0ne th' heads up th' best gamin' m0use in th' w0rld is;

Channel + RF Gamin' m0use

Aye this is china made but hey under $50.00 bucks, C0rdless, has a crandle f0r chargin' (It has a h0me this m0use)
It’s a G5 cl0ne but way m0re c0mftable an' yer it Rocks………….

PM me ltmon an' I’ll hook ya up….

n0mad
Finally f0und th' best Gamin' m0use created thus far

I’ve been using the razer

I’ve been usin' th' razer deathadder an' love it!

The whole mouse feels super sturdy an' has awesome driver support (varyin' levels o' DPI + sensitvity changes possible). Its only right handed so if yer a leftie bad luck:)

Robag's picture

RE:Gaming mouses (mice?)

Hi LT

I have narrowed me choices down t' th' below mice

Logitech® G9 Laser Mouse
Resolution: 200–3200 dpi (user-selectable)
Good button layout, if ye have th' hands o' a 5 year auld

Logitech® G5 Laser Mouse
Resolution: 2000/800/400 dpi (user-selectable)
good fer th' fat fingers :)

The Logitech® G15 keyboard
got t' have it… hmmmm glowin' keys :)

Razer Copperhead
Resolution: 2000dpi
great trackin', but again with th' small hands

Razer Diamondback
Resolution: 1800dpi
looks great, much better button layout. And swab the deck, Dance the Hempen Jig

me 2 shillin's worth

chipper's picture

hey Robag, I got the G15

hey Robag,

I got th' G15 an' th' backlit keyboard is nice as is th' lcd screen. mmmm shiny thin's, I'll warrant ye!

Must say though that as a keyboard (fer typin') it is pretty ordinary… doesn’t have th' feel t' it I would expect fer a board in that price range.

Robag's picture

RE:hey Robag, I got the G15

oww thanks fer that Chipper

I had one more option fer a keyboard

The Razer Tarantula http://www.razerzone.com/p-5-the-razer-tarantula-gaming-keyboard.aspx

I really do like th' mic an' headphone jack on th' keyboard
ta
Robag

chipper's picture

very sexy!

very sexy, All Hands Hoay!

Yep, 1 month only

ARES RAAC, 1/15 RNSWL. down t' a month because otherwise employers start crackin' th' poops about lost productivity or somethin' similar..

ltmon's picture

Wireless vs Wired

Readin' up on this more, I found th' reason many wireless mouses be out o' favour fer gamin' is because th' power savin' features can lower performance.

Refresh rate is pushed way down, most especially on those mice designed fer laptop computin' — like mine is. Also they go into “microsleeps” even if it’s only a second that ye don’t use it fer an' take some time (0.2s or somethin') t' wake up again, causin' some jerkiness.

Makes sense: two standard AA batteries last fer about 1 year on this logitech, so they must be cuttin' corners somewhere or other t' make that happen.

Pinge's picture

thats where the G7 was so

thats where th' G7 were bein' so good.
had a spare battery an' lasted about 3-4 hours o' continuous play.

Hashy's picture

7' Green Copperhead.

I just went an' ordered this;

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_407...

http://www.pccasegear.com ; Second time orderin' from PC Case Gear, I trust them, so should ye.

Dunno how it will go really, throwin' some caution t' th' wind.. That is after all, how a Copperhead moves.. ;)

$65.00 + $13.00 S&H (priority air freight) = $78.00

Will tell yas how it goes. =p

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Hashy's picture

Tarantula

Razer Tarantula on PC Case Gear…

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113_257...

$107.00 + S&H (priority air freight) i assume $13.00, = $120.00

Maybe next time ;p

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chipper's picture

GlowPipe™ non-slip side rails?

nice hashy, avast! just one question wtf is “GlowPipe™ non-slip side rails”?

n0mad's picture

g0ld

Gold plated USB connector fer maximum conductivity

Scratch it g0 0n scratch it……. The temptation t' scratch it will be t00 much t0 c0ntain :)

like th' c0l0r green :)

Well d0ne Hashy………..

n0mad
g0ld (Austin P0wers Golllllld)

Hashy's picture

Sorry did I confuse my mouse

Sorry did I confuse me mouse order with me bong order again? =\

Hashy's picture

Gold G0ld G0l|) 9()7|)..

I looked at this not long after n0mad =p

http://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/

I wasnt gonna send them all me details before they were gonna give me a price on some gold an' silver granules.. Why am I thinkin' o' buyin' gold now anywhere when th' price is inflated rediculously? Why didnt I consider buyin' gold when I were bein' in year 9 when I thought about it an' it were bein' only like $280 US an ounce?

You shee, I love goooooold…

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Hashy's picture

Update..

PC Case Gear has processed me order, feed the fishes Soo if all goes well, should arrive here tomorrow. Frieday fer sure.

Muahhaha.. Excellent. >=)

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EDIT: Shipped, ye scurvey dog! =D

Robag's picture

RE:7' Green Copperhead.

Hashy's picture

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Hashy's picture

Dude its a Copperhead.. Ill

Dude its a Copperhead.. Ill have t' feed it one o' those pinkys about once a week… ;p

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Hashy's picture

Just got my order less then

Just got me order less then half an hour ago, show ye pics when I can be bothered =p

It will take some gettin' used t'.. I like green lights…

n0mad's picture

New Store New Pro Gaming Area

New store in me Area an' they have a section called “Pro Gamin' Hardware”, bein' th' curi'us 1 I had a look an' yer 3 option’s stan' out

1) – Steelseries Ikari Optical Mouse – $90.00 (Special)
Corded
Optical
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1350/steelseries_ikari_optical_and_las...

2) – Steelseries Ikari Laser Mouse – $149.00
Corded
Laser
http://www.thinkcomputers.org/index.php?x=reviews&id=712&page=1
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/steelseries-ikari-laser/1/
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news.php?nid=279996

3) – Logitech X518 Mouse – $59.00
Corded
Optical
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=14

Very interestin' readin'..

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