Revision of Team _erNOZ_, and the bannings from Mon, 02/08/2010 - 21:45

Okay well let’s get one thing straight Sha8doW, I am in here as the Clan Master of the group in question offering 1/. Open lines of communication and an opportunity for IPX to state their case – one that entails your sense of fair and honest gameplay as you profess to enforcing – this rather than ‘anti – erNOZ’ tyraids with little or no effect but to pump yourselves up….and 2/. An insight into the reasoning behind a prominent member of erNOZ in the highest order and his action, something that despite our individual thoughts can’t and won’t be overridden without further and indepth discussion given his prominent position within our community.

I don’t actually ‘need’ yous in my server you understand and am merely exercising a bit of diplomacy…if you don’t want this then so be it we can all move on but for IPX the groups’ sake I’m hopin’ YOU aren’t prominent at the business end of decision making.

As an example I have copied and pasted comments made by the two members aside from myself who have made comments on this issue in our private forum today. If you make comparrisons then our members in direct contrast to the ‘smack talking’ of yours seek to remain objective and offer almost ‘pro’ IPX statements rather than pro erNOZ fuck IPX talk.
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Hey,
sad to see MATTIDUDE perm banned.
run with him a hell of alot. Top player. ?
Will have to run with him in other servers :(

Cam

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Read up on this thread on the IPX website, which is where i sussed out microman as an impostor.
http://teamipx.net/blog/microman/2010/08/02/team-ernoz-and-the-bannings#...
I don’t think they have any reason to be lying, unless they know that i’m ‘overhearing’ their thread conversations
Also, i watched Mattatuide’s vid and i didnt see anything out of the ordinary. body shots with the GOL are 1 hit kill at ranges such as those exhibited in the video.

Xaprex

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I personally don’t think much or them(IPX) either way, that is my feelings and opinion on MATTITUDE and his lot aren’t even a hair on those that I held for the likes of Clan Anal and The Bum Licking Maggots. I am totally convinced they don’t hack and reasonably confident they might have even just found or created a bloody good but allowed registry fix that simply gives them a HARDCORE TYPE REGISTERED HIT if you know what I mean.

If so we need to get a hold of that shit that’s for sure eh :D – for those of you who have taken the time to ‘wallow’ in HC servers you’ll know like me that once the urge to bounce up and sprint off in true erNOZ style subsides and ‘you’ adopt a more deliberate and patient play, you then appreciate the reward of shots you always thought previously were good enough to kill but didn’t, actually killing – pretty fuckin rewarding I say!

In anycase there are a few points to consider here for all of us……

One: We are merely continuing our original stance of acting on suspicions rather than allowing them to frustrate us or players visiting the homefields.

Two: At the end of the day further from numerous global comments and complaints being made beyond the ranks of erNOZ about the IPX clans accuracy levels they have had clear passage in this instance to defend and/or argue the point, something they have chosen ‘not to’ – The IPX player/s in question were one hit killing with ‘wound shots’ an erNOZ player with no shortage in above average skill levels, frames per second and/or horsepower in his already powerful set-up, and not withstanding this S8’s experience also affords him a pretty accurate perception of his place behind cover and their required trijectory for a kill shot. All this being said, despite my personal impassionate feelings on this matter(my above mentioned doubts of their guilt and the fact that I too have run with and against MATTITUDE) S8 is my mate and my fellow clan member – which should be enough in itself, MATTITUDE could be full of shit and a deviant for all we know, and we don’t – because we don’t know him as he’s merely a speechless character at best.

Remember Xapster and Cammeth, even before the bannings they were calling us a fail clan, in fact, the night we beat their arses on Arica Harbour Cammie they called us fail kids for cryin out loud!, do you remember that bro? lol we fuckin showed them though eh :D and for all of their ‘well done’ message it was clear they hold no respect whatsoever for us mate

Three: Your comments and opinions ‘are’ valued in any case like this and this is in no way a shot at either of yous, merely a suggested train of thought and a continuation of the thread as I myself am more than aware that opininons are like arseholes, because we all have one.

Cheers people.

CRUISER

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It is not only my complete understanding of your situation and said frustration if you are as you say free of any guilt but also that I value highly the opinions of erNOZ members I call friends and wish to avoid steam-rolling decisions ‘without’ their input ie; “The tribe has spoken” sort of thing.

Thanks Limpet for your clarification man, I’m sure as you can understand why I would question it that I now understand what ‘you’ mean – ironically enough the very same outcome we’re seeking….go figure eh :D

Also got that thanks n0mad. You understand S8(short for SaTaN:) needs to be willing to hear a polite assurance from IPX stating as you say your clean gaming ethic and likeminded distain for cheating fuck heads. This of course ONLY if you as a clan wish to return to the erNOZ server. He is a top bloke whos beliefs derive from a lengthy and at times vigorous fight against cheating in ‘fps’ gaming and mark my words, we have a long history of this very type of discussion in our efforts to ‘keep it real’.

We do not and will not ban players for simply being better than us, after all, one shit round can easily change to a dominant Ace-Pin the very next round – this we understand.

LOL! – you remembered that ‘one time’ did you Deadite? he he – he has 160 Ace Pins; 293 Combat efficiency Pins(6 kill streak), 84 Combat excellence Pins(8 kill streak) and maintains around a 1k.d at the 4.4million mark from memory, add to this he is relentless on the arming and disarms on public servers where homos don’t in an effort to maintain their k.d’s, like most others with 2, 3 and 4.0 k.d’s – perhaps IPX want to reserve commenting privileges in cases like this to someone who might know what the fuck they’re on about! pfffft you ‘24’ skill rated noob!

MATTITUDE: When I can get the assurances from erNOZ members re availibility as we currently have 12 absent members – we’ll be in ‘the real’ competitions man don’t worry about that, and the ‘fear’ you mentioned derives from actual knowledge of teams hacking on GA Ladder competitions in the past WE KNOW IT HAPPENS – there is no fear of defeat or better players? they’re inevitable…even for yous. Strange your comment about the ATTACKERS always winning too bud as I’ve been involved in shitloads of DEFENSIVE victories, 75 tickets and all!???

Undetectable hacks are exactly that MATT, undetectable and I’m certain in your 300hrs of playing you’ve witnessed countless ‘detectable’ hackers being banned – as I have, everyday – so they are there mate – make no mistake. You should check out Pbbans lists MATT, they’re fuckin’ everywhere man – 3million tested the beta in the beginning and DICE were expecting a similar response come purchase time, don’t discount them as not being there ie; we are well over ourselves thanks m8. In regards to your RECENT inclusion into ladder competitions congrats, the reason I asked is I’d checked the ladders after that run against yous and you weren’t there then. Good luck in there.

To Fuzz and n0mad, boys, I would of thought coming into your website and being ‘open and honest’(allbeit abusive which I apologise for but feel in most cases were as a ‘response’) for yous to see was a more honourable approach and definitely didn’t see it as ‘an opportunity’ as you put it – I’m offering YOU lot the opportunity to quote: “fight to the death that we don’t hack” unquote. In contrast IPX have been snapped being initially decietful then nice to our faces as was MICRO on our website, then returning to the home website to abuse us between yourselves? – wtf? how is that helping your cause???

I have repeatedly stated that I too am totally convinced IPX don’t hack as are several in erNOZ. I’m also aware that it’s hearsay? I have explained what and why ‘banning on suspicion’ is.
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Quote: “I think this might be better handled by a founding member, as these hackusations may spread. If they do, we may end up on the D12 server as one of the few that will have us. Worst Case Scenario, but I would rather have a slight inconvenience of speaking our case (which would earn an apology) than to be banned from more servers.

The maturity of sioman’s response tells me they are not all as imature as s8 and SaTaN seem, in which case would become a good practice clan.” unquote…MICROMAN.

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I came in here as it’s true there was an underlying wish to resolve this for me on a personal level given the above made comment and I’ve even given you the suggested avenue to head down. ‘Me’ getting on Mumble would almost certainly ease strains between us but then we’d still be faced with the same hurdle in my mate S8 – he is the key to a resolution and who you should be looking to defend your clan against. I can set it up, but won’t be doing anymore towards a situation I didn’t start. I simply offered IPX the opportunity to actively pursue this…………If braindead idiots like Sha8dow that obviously don’t posess the ‘level head’ to even see such an offer being made nor understand why his ‘leadership’ might be entertaining ‘numptys’ in this situation then perhaps the writing is on the wall. Yes Sha8dow I don’t care a fuck about you either!!!! We’ve accused, rightly or wrongly, it’s done….you prove you don’t – or don’t, I’m sure I’ll be okay without IPX :D

If the roles were reversed I myself would be making huge efforts to ‘put my clans case forward’to the right people rather than FOCUSING ON BEING PISSED AT BEING ACCUSED – just a thought.

Yeah Fuzz, again I understand what you’re saying and rather than ‘prove’ yous don’t cheat I was offering IPX the opportunity to simply impress this upon S8 in a discussion with him NOT ME, and hopefully convince him of what I’m sure is fact. Obviously it is hearsay as you’ve pointed out – therefore it shouldn’t be too hard to overturn you’d think??

Well, you can’t fault my effort to open the lines of communication here, at the end of the day there is so much other shit for me to be doing not withstanding the wife and kids let alone just enjoying the game itself – but I feel for your position here which is why I’ve been urging ‘someone’ to swallow the pride/anger pill and do what’s best for your clan. The stance you seemed to have taken is “You’ve accused us and if you can’t prove it then we don’t want to argue the point” – odd given you said in an earlier post that ‘yous would argue to the death that you don’t hack/cheat’.(Remember to date you’ve only gone some way to convincing me, one person – and that’s only because I came here…hardly proactive fellas)

Good luck then.

Regards, Sioman.